I have recently been “forced” to start using a Mac Book Pro, so I thought I’d take this opportunity to write down a few notes as I begin my journey toward a world that’s supposedly filled with milk and honey. But before I do that, let me say a few words on my background, so you know where I’m coming from.
I’ve been using computers pretty much since the age of 10 and since then, I have moved from programmable HP calculators to small computers (PC-1211 anyone?) then Apple ][, Amiga and finally, Windows pretty much ever since. I have spent a lot of time on Linux as well in the early days (back then, we were already saying that Linux was going to break through any day now) but gave up on it in despair five years ago after I realized how much it was stagnating.
At my work, I now find myself constantly switching between Windows, Linux and Mac OS. And I’m not exaggerating. I’m using at least two of these operating systems every day and more and more often, all three of them.
Finally, I don’t succumb easily to the fan syndrome and I try to keep a technical and objective judgment on everything.
Now that this is out of the way, here are my impressions after one week of diving into Mac OS.
- I can only resize from one corner and the cursor doesn’t change. Windows has let me resize windows from all four corners and even from all four edges of windows since the early 90’s. What’s taking Apple so long?
- Overall, Mac OS shows an extreme lack of affordances. For example, the menus on the top right corner of the menu bar
1) don’t look like menus at all (they look like icons) and
2) when you move your cursor over them, you still have no idea that a menu will unfold if you click them.
This inconsistency is even more surprising considering that the close/minimize/maximize icons in the top left corner have a hover animation when you move your cursor over them - QuickTime is as crappy on Mac OS as it is on Windows. It’s impossible to maximize the window, it doesn’t give you any indication of the total length of the movie, it doesn’t let you bookmark your views, it has the infuriating menu items preceded with “Pro version” that you can’t pick (they probably took a page off Real’s book… nice. How about a little of “Do no evil”?). In short, the simplest Windows open source player you can find on sourceforge, such as Media Player Classic, run rings around QuickTime. For now, I have switched to VLC, which supports Full Screen but unfortunately, is not recognized by the remote.
- Front Row and the remote control look neat, and I still hope I can get VLC to work with them.
- QuickSilver is nice, but no better than Google Desktop Search. Actually, GDS is better in my opinion because it also acts as a file searcher (for which I need to invoke SpotLight).
- Not being able to maximize a window fully or even in a consistent manner is driving me nuts. Some applications maximize at half the screen, forcing me to resize them, and others will… well, do whatever they damn please. Apple should buy a Cooper book and read up on the concept of sovereign applications.
- Mac OS forces me to double click everywhere. I haven’t double clicked on my Windows desktop since 1995, when Active Desktop came out. Fitt’s law and double clicks were revolutionary findings when the first Mac came out in 1984, but come on, this is 2006. We know how to select a menu and countless studies have proven that double clicking was one of the most confusing features of today’s user interfaces for new users. It doesn’t have to be the default, but at least, let me configure this, like Windows does.
- MacOS is very schizophrenic with respect to the Control and Apple keys. For example, bold on Word Mac is Apple-b while the rest of the world uses Control-b. And actually, quite a few other programs on the Mac use Control-b for bold. Eclipse uses Apple also everywhere instead of Control.
- Having said that, it was easy to remap Caps to Control. Even Windows XP still doesn’t know how to do that without a third party program. Also, I have to admit that the Apple button is a better location than control is, but the train has left the station on that one and 98% of the population is used to having their control button under their pinky.
- The Alt key doesn’t work on XEmacs (a define-key will probably fix that).
- The Alt-Tab behavior takes some time to get used to. As opposed to Windows, Alt-Tab only switches between applications. Once you are in the desired application, you still need to use Alt-~ to select the right window. This would be acceptable if Alt-~ gave me a minimized version of the various windows available to me, but it doesn’t: it raises all the windows to the foreground one by one. This is not only annoying (since it messes up the Z-order of your windows), it’s actually downright silly and completely inconsistent with Alt-Tab. I can still select the individual windows in the right part of the Dock, apparently, but I still want to be able to do this from the keyboard. In short, switching windows on Mac OS is a pain. The ultimate task switcher in my opinion is Task Switch XP, which lets you switch between all windows but also allows you to switch windows only within the current application with a different hot key (Alt-Control-Tab).
- The Mac Book Pro is hot. Very hot. And I don’t mean that metaphorically. It is hot as in “put it in your lap for a few hours in a row and you’ll go sterile”. Use a protection on your lap if you are going to use your Mac Book Pro for extended periods of time.
- There is no right mouse button on the laptop. Are you kidding me? Yes, I know that you can plug in a mouse and the right button will work right away, but I never use a laptop with a mouse, so I find myself doing the insane Control-click all the time. This is preposterous. And coupled with the absence of a Delete key (see below), I am finding myself doing finger aerobics much more often than I should.
- The keyboard backlighting doesn’t work at all. If anything, it makes the keys less readable. Which also mades me realize that I am looking at the keyboard, something I haven’t done in more than ten years. Hopefully, I’ll be familiar enough with this new keyboard soon and I’ll stop looking at it like I did on Windows, but until then, I turned keyboard backlighting off.
- Mixing up the quicklaunch bar and the taskbar is a mistake. The little arrow under the icons to indicate which ones are open are confusing, and I find Windows’ solution (two separate and distinct-looking bars) much more intuitive and more practical.
- Speaking of the Dock, I can click on an icon to show the window for that icon, but if I click again, nothing happens. I’d like the window to be folded back in the Dock when I do that. Right now, I have to go to the window and click on its “Minimize” icon.
- And while we’re on the subject of minimizing, there doesn’t seem to be a shortcut to minimize a window from the keyboard (it’s Alt-space-m on Windows, and I use it all the time).
- The backspace key is called “Delete” but it really means “Backspace”. I miss my Delete key, I used it all the time on Windows to delete files and folders, and right now, I have to use the insane Control-Click to do these simple operations.
Okay, that’s it for today, and that’s just after one week of usage.
While Mac OS contains a decent number of tools for power users (I really love having a native UNIX shell on my laptop), its newbie-oriented interface still shows in a lot of the operations that I do on a daily basis: big fonts, big colored buttons, primitive task and window switching, shortage of keyboard shortcuts (e.g. minimizing a single window), double clicks everywhere, no delete key, no right click, etc…
Unfortunately, Apple hasn’t really shown any good sign nor will to modernize their operating system in these various areas. This might not be a bad idea, since the biggest audience remains the casual user, but until these details are addressed, Mac OS will never be the ultimate hacker operating system (which remains Windows, in my opinion).
Finally, I’d like to say that despite these gripes, the experience has been fairly pleasant so far and I’m looking forward to exploring Mac OS further, but this initial foray shows that while Mac OS has some distinct advantages for hardcore geeks like me, it’s still not the ultimate combination of hardware and software for geeks.
#1 by Mihai Parparita on July 4, 2006 - 8:21 am
Regarding the right-click gripe, this may offer some relief:
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060627210830917
#2 by Nathan on July 4, 2006 - 8:33 am
For what it’s worth, Apple-M will minimize the current window. Apple-Delete will delete the current file in the Finder.
#3 by Rob Misek on July 4, 2006 - 8:53 am
Speaking of “finger aerobics”:
http://raibledesigns.com/page/rd?entry=two_finger_right_click
😉
#4 by Geoff Wozniak on July 4, 2006 - 9:14 am
As someone who actively switched away from Linux and Windows a little over a year ago, I haven’t found much of what you’ve stated to be a shortcoming or problem, as I put myself in the mindset of “I’m now going to do things differently” because I was just sick and tired of my old routines.
That being said, I understand many of your gripes. Maybe the following will make things a little easier on you.
– I use Alt-Tab a bit and Alt-~, but for window switching bliss, I use Expose. I find Alt- to be clumsy now. I set up Expose to trigger in a variety of ways, one of which is a click on my tablet.
– The right mouse button is done by clicking with two fingers on the trackpad after you enable it in System Preferences.
Like every other OS I’ve used, OS X is made more “hackerish” by getting lots of other little apps. QuickSilver, Visor, KeyCue and OnyX being some of the ones I use. It also pays to learn a little AppleScript (being able to control a multitude of apps with AppleScript can be very handy).
#5 by Brad Reynolds on July 4, 2006 - 9:21 am
A couple of quick responses to hopefully help out in your experience:
Quicksilver – Quicksilver wasn’t meant to be google search. It does a great job as a app launcher (which most people use it for) but it provides some pretty significant productivity boosts above and beyond that. It takes some time reading through the tutorials on the quicksilver site to really get it, or at least it did for me.
Task switching – have you checked out expose (http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/expose/)?
Right clicking – the two finger on the trackpad has helped with right clicking significantly.
Minimizing – a lot of mac users just do Command + H to hide the app instead of minimizing it. But this is for the whole app not just one window.
Command, Ctrl inconsistency – Command is the primary modifier on OS X. In SWT this is MOD_1. It does take a little getting used to when coming from Windows but it is a much better positioning than the Ctrl key as you point out.
Quicktime maximizing – yeah, most people just pay the $30 for the pro version just for the full screen mode.
XEmacs – if you’re looking for a change check out TextMate. TextMate is one of the best apps on OS X. Also if you’re familiar with Emacs keybindings a subset of the keybindings are available in all Cocoa text areas which is a nice perk.
#6 by Patrick Calahan on July 4, 2006 - 9:50 am
Yup, I think you’re pretty much right on with all complaints. Two years ago, I was in exactly the same position:
http://pcal.net/blog/archives/2004/06/so_ive_had_my_p.html
But I still have my PowerBook and have since grown to love it. At first, it’s difficult to fully appreciate many of OSX’ virtues (stability, intuitiveness, lack of OS clutter (e.g. a registry)). Its flaws are real but I found them easier to forgive over time.
#7 by RichB on July 4, 2006 - 10:00 am
* Active Desktop was out later than 1995.
* Ctrl is in the same place on my 1999 PC keyboard as it is on my MacBook. Perhaps that’s something to do with the UK keyboard layout.
* Speaking of UK keyboard layouts, whose decision at Apple was it to remove the # key COMPLETELY from the keyboard? As part of the MacOS setup (Airport I think) I needed to enter a # key…
* The two finger-click for right mouse button is becoming very natural quite quickly.
#8 by RichB on July 4, 2006 - 10:04 am
And to add a couple more to your list
* Why do AFP and SMB mounts automatically unmount at the slightest problem with the file server? Why can’t they just go “offline”?
* I use Firefox (of course). It’s just a shame that all Firefox menus open on the primary monitor even if the Firefox window is on a secondary monitor.
#9 by Rob Dickens on July 4, 2006 - 10:12 am
Try ‘fn Backspace’ for Delete.
You don’t agree that it’s the best of both worlds then? (Unix + modern GUI)
And .app bundles are a handy innovation.
I can recommend http://aquamacs.org/ btw. Some of the fonts look pretty good.
#10 by Romain GUY on July 4, 2006 - 10:55 am
Cedric, most of your complains just come from the fact you expect Mac OS X to behave the way you are used to on Windows and Linux. As somebody else said here, I approached Apple’s OS with the idea of trying something totally different. While Mac OS X is FAR from perfect, I have hard time giving it the same griefs as you do. I seldom feel the need to right click (and the latest Mac OS X 10.4.7 let you do that with the touchpad by the way), Apple+Delete is fine by me to delete folders or entries in apps, etc. Also, if you encountered apps that use Ctrl+Something, then the apps are wrong. All Mac OS X apps use Apple instead of Control and that’s the way it is. Critics are fine, but please avoid being stubborned 🙂 (BTW, I do use Windows and Mac OS X every day and Linux very often)
#11 by Romain GUY on July 4, 2006 - 10:58 am
Oh I almost forgot: the “maximize” button on Mac OS X is NOT a maximize button. It’s meant to size the document window to the size that fits best the content. I’ve had hard time with it in the past but now I kinda like it. On the contrary to Windows where I used to have a single maximized document on screen at a time, I now have several documents/applications with sensible sizes. I prefer it that way but that’s a matter of taste I guess.
#12 by RichT on July 4, 2006 - 11:43 am
For RichB, I agree, whoever decided to remove the # from a UK keyboard obviously wasn’t writing C on it! For those of you who don’t know, Alt-3 gets you a # and Alt-2 gets you a
#13 by Tom Hawtin on July 4, 2006 - 12:39 pm
Re: Window resizing. No WIMP should insist on clicking on a two pixel wide button. To make them usable, resize borders should be much wider. OTOH, they take up more screen real estate than the title bar without showing any useful information. They should be done away with, together with the clickable scrollbar.
In terms of affordance, it’s much better for the manipulted object to show it can do something, rather than the manipulating cursor doing something odd.
#14 by Todd Huss on July 4, 2006 - 2:52 pm
I’m with you on a lot of the points. Sadly I still feel that Windows is a lot more consistent from a keyboard shortcut/UI perspective but overall I’m still really happy I made the switch. When I first switched from Windows/Linux to the MacBook I wrote this posting:
http://gabrito.com/post/macbook-pro-first-impressions-and-why-i-switched
then after using it for a while I wrote up a few of my gripes:
http://gabrito.com/post/4-things-in-need-of-improvement-in-os-x
After almost 3 months solely on a MacBook I still get confused with the inconsistent keyboard shortcuts but overall as a combination development/office apps machine it’s the best combination out there in my opinion.
#15 by Jesse Wilson on July 4, 2006 - 6:05 pm
I like the Apple key over CTRL because in Terminal I can use CTRL-C to kill a process and Apple-C to copy. Easy! On the Windows’ command line, copy is unintuitive and works differently between Win2k and XP. Linux is even weirder with both the X clipboard and the desktop clipboard.
#16 by Lachlan on July 4, 2006 - 7:35 pm
I find it ironic that you complain about Mac using Command-B for bold where everything else uses Ctrl-B. Apple basically invented menu shortcuts, and the Apple/Command key was added to their keyboards explicitly for this purpose. When Microsoft later copied the Mac interface to make Windows, they didn’t (then) have the power to add a new key to PC keyboards. So they had no choice but to use an existing key for menu shortcuts, with Control being the best available choice.
So it’s really shortcuts that use Ctrl that are wrong :-). On the Mac, I’ve only ever noticed this in Java applications. They’ll often use Ctrl as it’s more consistent across platforms. Although I’m pretty sure even Java apps can fully support the Command key without much difficulty.
Some history:
http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Swedish_Campground.txt
#17 by Lachlan on July 4, 2006 - 7:36 pm
I find it ironic that you complain about Mac using Command-B for bold where everything else uses Ctrl-B. Apple basically invented menu shortcuts, and the Apple/Command key was added to their keyboards explicitly for this purpose. When Microsoft later copied the Mac interface to make Windows, they didn’t (then) have the power to add a new key to PC keyboards. So they had no choice but to use an existing key for menu shortcuts, with Control being the best available choice.
So it’s really shortcuts that use Ctrl that are wrong :-). On the Mac, I’ve only ever noticed this in Java applications. They’ll often use Ctrl as it’s more consistent across platforms. Although I’m pretty sure even Java apps can fully support the Command key without much difficulty.
Some history:
http://folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Swedish_Campground.txt
#18 by Jon Tirsen on July 4, 2006 - 10:37 pm
The first years of my software development career was building apps for Mac and even though it was crappy Mac OS 7.5 I did like it a lot (I was switchin from Solaris and X that I used in uni). After almost ten years using Windows and Linux I decided to “switch back” last year. It took me about a month of much annoyance before I “relearned” Mac OS and I was almost to the point were I regretted my PowerBook purchase. Now, I can’t go back, and I’m experiencing the same annoyance whenever I use Windows (and let’s not even talk about Linux). It’s far from perfect but I would insist it’s combination of slick UI and Unix underpinnings makes it the currently best “geek” operative system. And even my girlfriend likes it! (She got so annoyed every time she was forced to use our Dell when I was on the Mac that we ended up buying an 19 inch iMac for her.)
#19 by Jason. on July 4, 2006 - 11:08 pm
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#20 by Rob Sanheim on July 4, 2006 - 11:34 pm
One minor point: you can add folders or even your whole hard drive to be indexed by Quicksilver – I just add my home directory and my project stuff, and that typically includes everything I need. Go preferences -> catalog -> custom…
#21 by Jon Mountjoy on July 5, 2006 - 12:30 am
To get the application swtich behaviour that you want, install the free witch: http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?section=witch
#22 by Jon Mountjoy on July 5, 2006 - 12:31 am
To get the application swtich behaviour that you want, install the free witch: http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?section=witch
#23 by Marc Logemann on July 5, 2006 - 12:38 am
Cedric i can share your thoughts and issues because i went through them some weeks ago. But i also have to agree with Jason. You have to leave some windows habbits behind. Still there are some annyoances of course. I pick some annoyances which are still there for me even trying hard to be a typical Mac user 😉
– I dont use the Notebook too often without external keyboard and mouse but when i do, the lack of a second button drives me crazy. i am also missing various keys like delete.
– Perhaps its only a german keyboard layout issue but i find many important characters quite hard to reach like []{}, i remapped them alltogehter to be in the windows keyboard layout.
I cant share too much of your GUI issues because its just a different way of operating. I use Apple+M for minimizing all the time and Apple+Del for deleting stuff. I like the doc as it is (a better approach than having all those app-icons on the desktop).
IMO the best thing you can do is not think of how windows would do it. But i switched to Apple not only of its GUI, my main reason was definitely the SHELL or better said, the underlying operating system. This combined with a better approach how applications are packaged was my reason. I mean, try this with windows:
Backup your user folder with all your apps on an external firewire drive. Go to a random Mac, plug in the firewire disk and tell Mac OS that your user folder is there. Voila, you can work on a different computer like its your own in a matter of seconds.
#24 by Axel Rauschmayer on July 5, 2006 - 2:07 am
VLC and Apple Remote: http://www.filewell.com/iRedLite/ (free)
#25 by n on July 5, 2006 - 6:38 am
I bought a Mac over a year ago, and still find OS X disappointing after giving it a fair shot. For me, Linux (Ubuntu/Debian specifically) is the ultimate hacker OS. OS X is neat, and I use it for audio/video apps, but overall it doesn’t live up to the hype. The fact that they nickle-and-dime you (Quicktime Pro, Quicktime plugins you have to buy such as MPEG2) is annoying because you paid all this money for a supposedly premium OS (which is also supposedly great for video) and yet you still have to keep paying for all these little things that are taken for granted in Linux.
#26 by Eric Foster-Johnson on July 5, 2006 - 7:01 am
Cedric, The Mac has its advantages and disadvantages. On the whole, though, I really like it as a development machine.
* On the good side, it contains a Unix base. Tcl, Python, and other fun tools are built in, as is Java. It supports all sorts of multimedia from the get-go. I don’t have to slow my system down with anti-virus software.
Some quirks:
* The Home key usually goes to the start of the document (ironically, this is emacs style). End goes to the end. I am really used to Home going to the start of the current line. This constantly gets me.
* Cmd-Q quits an application. Most apps will not quit if you close the last window. (Some do, though.)
* “Maximize” on iTunes actually toggles between small window and large window mode. Neat feature. Totally inconsistent.
* I agree that using the dock for showing running tasks as well as launching new tasks can be confusing. I think my biggest problem with this is related to the screen size. Most Macs come with a built-in screen that has a far too low resolution (for my tastes). The latest revs of Macs have better resolutions, but still not enough for me. I am definitely planning on getting a second monitor for my iMac. But, I’d prefer if the built-in resolution was greater.
* I love the idea of the dashboard, but not the separate virtual screen it is implemented on. So, I usually turn it off, saving some processing power and memory.
* To RichB, in the USA, the “#” glyph is (often) called a “pound sign”. Hence, when creating a British keyboard, the pound sterling symbol replaced the “#”, which is obviously the “right thing to do” :-). Your best bet is to treat this as a sign from God that you should not develop in C#.
* The plastic used on Macs emits a special chemical. Within a month you should no longer have any complaints about the Mac. You should realize it is the greatest thing ever.
Suggestions:
* There are many versions of emacs for Mac OS X, some more Mac-like than others. Of course, you’re using the enemy of emacs. 🙂 See http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ for many apps.
* I really try to use cross-platform tools, such as jEdit for editing, Eclipse for an IDE, Firefox for browsing, Thunderbird for email, and so on. These tools all work mostly the same as on other platforms.
* I recommend an add-on terminal app, either iTerm (http://iterm.sourceforge.net/) or Terminator (http://software.jessies.org/terminator/). The latter is written mostly in Java and is my current favorite.
* I use OpenOffice.org on Windows and Linux and NeoOffice on the Mac. NeoOffice is a mac-ized port of OO.o at http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/index.php.
* AdiumX (http://www.adiumx.com/) is a great multi-protocol IM client.
* Mac icons are works of art. I use CandyBar (http://www.iconfactory.com/cb_home.asp) to switch the standard icons.
Good luck.
#27 by Eric Foster-Johnson on July 5, 2006 - 7:02 am
Cedric, The Mac has its advantages and disadvantages. On the whole, though, I really like it as a development machine.
* On the good side, it contains a Unix base. Tcl, Python, and other fun tools are built in, as is Java. It supports all sorts of multimedia from the get-go. I don’t have to slow my system down with anti-virus software.
Some quirks:
* The Home key usually goes to the start of the document (ironically, this is emacs style). End goes to the end. I am really used to Home going to the start of the current line. This constantly gets me.
* Cmd-Q quits an application. Most apps will not quit if you close the last window. (Some do, though.)
* “Maximize” on iTunes actually toggles between small window and large window mode. Neat feature. Totally inconsistent.
* I agree that using the dock for showing running tasks as well as launching new tasks can be confusing. I think my biggest problem with this is related to the screen size. Most Macs come with a built-in screen that has a far too low resolution (for my tastes). The latest revs of Macs have better resolutions, but still not enough for me. I am definitely planning on getting a second monitor for my iMac. But, I’d prefer if the built-in resolution was greater.
* I love the idea of the dashboard, but not the separate virtual screen it is implemented on. So, I usually turn it off, saving some processing power and memory.
* To RichB, in the USA, the “#” glyph is (often) called a “pound sign”. Hence, when creating a British keyboard, the pound sterling symbol replaced the “#”, which is obviously the “right thing to do” :-). Your best bet is to treat this as a sign from God that you should not develop in C#.
* The plastic used on Macs emits a special chemical. Within a month you should no longer have any complaints about the Mac. You should realize it is the greatest thing ever.
Suggestions:
* There are many versions of emacs for Mac OS X, some more Mac-like than others. Of course, you’re using the enemy of emacs. 🙂 See http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ for many apps.
* I really try to use cross-platform tools, such as jEdit for editing, Eclipse for an IDE, Firefox for browsing, Thunderbird for email, and so on. These tools all work mostly the same as on other platforms.
* I recommend an add-on terminal app, either iTerm (http://iterm.sourceforge.net/) or Terminator (http://software.jessies.org/terminator/). The latter is written mostly in Java and is my current favorite.
* I use OpenOffice.org on Windows and Linux and NeoOffice on the Mac. NeoOffice is a mac-ized port of OO.o at http://www.planamesa.com/neojava/en/index.php.
* AdiumX (http://www.adiumx.com/) is a great multi-protocol IM client.
* Mac icons are works of art. I use CandyBar (http://www.iconfactory.com/cb_home.asp) to switch the standard icons.
Good luck.
#28 by Laurent on July 5, 2006 - 9:59 am
As you i have begun with HP mini calculators, then Oric, Then Amstrad, then Amiga, then Mac, then Windows, then Linux.Many 30 year old people have this same experience you know. You’re not alone.
After reading your post, i think you should continue to work on Mac to have a better view of the Operating System.
It’s absolutly too early after one week of use to write an article like this.
I think you lose your time writing such article : you should have continued to investigate on Mac OS, which is to my mind one of the most advanced Operating systems this time. All what you speak about are not real problems.
Cheers
#29 by MOLOKO on July 5, 2006 - 2:21 pm
As someone who also switched from Windows about 10 months ago i have to say I agree with most of those, plus an added four gripes:
1) you can’t cut and paste files in Finder – you have to drag and drop to move files around
2) keyboard shortcuts are really inconsistent. As someone who likes being able to control his whole computer from the keyboard I don’t like this – particularly having to use apple-left cursor and right cursor instead of home and end – not helped by it being different in some apps.
3) always having the application menu stuck in the top bar would make it annoying to use with a dual monitor setup
4) not being able to copy the path of a file to the clipboard in Finder is rubbish (and why I now use Pathfinder)
That said, Mac OS X is a *really* great OS and I have far less gripes with it than with Windows. Most users I know have the same experience. I now recommend to all people who ask that they should buy a Mac – if they ignore my advice and get a PC I refuse to act as helpdesk for them. Those who buy a Mac never need my help cause it’s so easy to set up and use – so I don’t get hassled either way!
#30 by Brad on July 5, 2006 - 4:22 pm
This list of “complaints” is highly typical of Windows users moving to Mac. Much of it is simply because MacOS differs from what you are used to… not that what you are used to with Windows was actually a better solution. The remaining items amount to nitpicking differences between MacOS and Windows, most of which – as numerous others have listed above – have a MacOS equivalent.
As a longtime user of both platforms, I can assure you that your habits will change and you’ll find yourself appreciating MacOS more and more. I find that Macs largely just let me get my work done, while Windows is constantly jumping in front of me and distracting me from the task at hand. I’m at the point now where I find Windows completely inexcusable and avoid it whenever possible.
Good luck and happy switching!
#31 by Jason. on July 5, 2006 - 8:12 pm
“1) you can’t cut and paste files in Finder – you have to drag and drop to move files around”.
You absolutely can. Try it!
#32 by Katie on July 5, 2006 - 8:43 pm
If you want to watch Quicktime movies (and others) in full screen, I suggest NicePlayer. Like VLC, it will play virtually anything and you can view it full screen for free. http://niceplayer.indyjt.com/
If you aren’t viewing a movie full screen, there are no control bars cluttering up the screen like VLC has now :-/ They appear when you hover at the bottom or top of the video. Oh, it also has a playlist, unlike Quicktime, so you can toss a bunch of .mov files in the playlist, sit back, and enjoy. You can also have more than one video open and have them stay on top of your other applications.
#33 by Frank Bolander on July 6, 2006 - 12:41 pm
Which Mac Pro are you using? The 17 inch has the higher end graphic card which does push some BTU’s but no more than my AlienWare Windows Box. The heat transfer is one of the reasons I went for the 13 inch instead of the “Pro” line. Even though it’s one of the shared mem graphics cards, I don’t do that much video and it more than serves my development purposes(I do use a separate monitor on my desk) as well as music. Plus it’s a nice size for travelling.
Overall, I’m happy I switched. I dual boot Windows XP and Mac OS and find myself more and more staying with Mac OS. And it’s nice not having to dick around with as many viruses as on Windows. And as you said, having a native Unix shell on a good UI is a pleasure.
#34 by David on July 6, 2006 - 5:34 pm
When I first switched I had many of the same problems with my “learned behaviour”.
However, my biggest grip was RoboForm only works on Windows and there was no Mac equivalent. This hurt a lot; so I wrote 1Passwd 🙂
1Passwd uses the Keychain and integrates with Safari, Firefox, Flock, and Camino so you never need to leave your browser to login to a web page. By using the keychain you can have one secure, centralized area for managing (and backing up) your logins.
#35 by Apple is for suckers on July 8, 2006 - 10:05 pm
Apple is for brainwashed fanboys who have more money than sense. What could possibly force you to buy its products?
Reading through your list it appears that most of your issues would simply go away if you’d run GNU/Linux with KDE.
#36 by Edwin Khodabakchian on July 9, 2006 - 11:38 pm
I switched about 3 months ago. It took me about 4 weeeks to get de-intoxicated from Windows and 10-years of brain-wash. Mac OS X is not perfect but is is some much better than Windows in so many ways. It will be interesting to see how your feelings will evolve in the next 4 weeks.
-Edwin
#37 by Marius Hanganu on July 10, 2006 - 12:23 am
Hey Cedric,
I like Windows better than Mac, but I think it would be useful and objective if you’d try to post an entry about Mac advantages over Windows.
That would make this post fair.
Marius
#38 by Amit Patel on July 16, 2006 - 7:45 pm
A post about Mac advantages over Windows would be pointless. Expectations for Mac are higher. The Mac isn’t saddled with backwards compatibility. They should be able to do a much better job. Nobody goes around saying Windows is much better than Mac. But Apple and many fans go around telling people Macs are FAR better. Thus, when I use a Mac I expect more. When I’m using Windows, I *expect* annoyances and inconsistencies. Thus, annoyances and inconsistencies don’t bother me much; I’m prepared for them. But on the Mac, I’ve been told everything is consistent and easy to use and never annoying, so any inconsistencies and annoyances stand out, and bother me a great deal.
#39 by Charles on July 19, 2006 - 5:08 pm
I’m just curious what you mean when you say “I have recently been “forced” to start using a Mac Book Pro”. Why do you put quotations on forced?
#40 by Evan on August 15, 2006 - 12:54 pm
If you haven’t found it by now, there is a little app that lets you use the apple remote with VLC.
http://channels.lockergnome.com/osx/archives/20060430_gettin_apples_remote_to_work_with_vlc.phtml
#41 by Anonymous on December 17, 2006 - 10:40 am
“”1) you can’t cut and paste files in Finder – you have to drag and drop to move files around”.
You absolutely can. Try it!”
Please, tell me how! I honestly would love to know.
PS. This issue was my personal gripe. I agree w/ most everything else also, but this hurdle would probably set me free.
#42 by frederik on August 31, 2009 - 11:19 am
wow is good but… no lvl 40 to killl or no q
#43 by shashiprab on November 20, 2009 - 6:52 pm
Some thoughts here- I dont know what you mean by “forced”, but I have been a Mac/Apple user for 17 years coming from windows. I do use windows at Work and off and on for a few things.
-Mac/Apple or Mac Users never forced anyone to adopt a Mac- unlike Windows/Windows Users. No one looks at you weirdly. It has always been a free choice.
-People who complain about Ctrl/Cmd -forget that Cmd was first in concept.
-Mac and Windows are different. You cannot go to live in Bora Bora and wonder you cannot get a McDonalds burger.
-If you got all the things you listed in a Mac, it wouldnt be a Mac anymore.
-Lastly people now realize, there are many ways to do the right thing. Those who want claim that since 90% do it one way, that, that is the only right way now no longer believe that.
-Finally think of this- if the Windows world is fearing for its life and going on the offensive on 7% of Mac users- there is something to the Mac way. People just havent known better.
Hope you have found your peace – like Mac users did since 1997 when Steve Jobs declared the Win/Mac war over. – Peace!